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Post by Jaime Dugan on Jan 5, 2009 23:22:56 GMT -4
Thanks for clearing that up PG that I LATE voted, instead of self-voted .
And thanks for your honestly JR and also PG. And thank you aswell for the nice compliments.
This will be a tough vote I beleive, for everybody.
- Queen of the Outback (hehe JR )
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Post by Jean-Robert Bellande on Jan 5, 2009 23:27:00 GMT -4
Dave:
What was my strategy after my last pre-merge ally left? I was very much aware that I was in the minority, which obviously wasn't where I had hoped to be. I think what distinguished me from the other people in the minority is that I came up with a back-up plan... it's been covered a lot, but obviously I aligned myself with Frosti. For a while, I took on an "anyone but me" policy, because I was banking on the fact that eventually the original Zhan Hu alliance would break up. It did, and I took the opportunity provided by the elimination of Erik to get to where I am today, in the final three.
I absolutely believe that Frosti and Peih-Gee are deserving of being in the Final Three, but if I was going to pick three people to replace the three of us, I would select Chicken, Ashley and Jaime. I've spoken about all three of them in previous answers... simply, I think that they all played great games in different ways.
The jury, and why they don't deserve to be here:
Dave - I've said it before, but I think your mistake was that you tried to make alliances with too many people, so most people didn't trust you.
Todd/Leslie - like I talked about before, unfortunately these two didn't have a back-up plan, which led to them being voted out.
Erik/Jaime - I have very little bad to say about the way either of them played the game, but if I were to pick something, it would be the fact that it was very clear from the beginning that they were aligned with each other. That made them big targets.
Ashley - I guess I'd say that she rubbed some people the wrong way early on. She worked through it and did well in the end, but it was probably pretty dicey for her in the beginning.
Chicken - Like PG said, I do think that he played a bit too hard in the end. It's hard to condemn him for it, though, because I did the exact same thing at the exact same time.
Courtney - It's been covered before, but like PG I also think that she was too reliant on others sometimes... but hey, it got her to the end.
Thanks, Dave... I hope that answers everything.
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Post by Courtney Yates on Jan 5, 2009 23:45:20 GMT -4
Hello final three, and congratulations for making it to the final tribal council. I have a few questions for PG first and then the same set of questions for all of you. PG: Frosti said that "Chicken and PG said we were final three and that JR and Courtney were pawns." Is this true? You said, "She sometimes listened too much with what every one else wanted her to do instead of thinking of moves she can make by herself." My moves were all directed by myself to one ending: going to the final TC with you and/or Frosti, the only two players I felt I had a chance against. Voting off other players along the way had to be done- to me the order didn't matter. Actually, the last one wasn't a question, just a comment. Now my question for the three of you. I like words. I like interesting words. Words are a big part of my professional life, and they amuse and entertain me endlessly. I would like each of you to choose two words to describe yourself and/or your gameplay: one must be a positive, and the other must be a negative. Explain your word choice.
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Post by Steve "Chicken" Morris on Jan 5, 2009 23:49:59 GMT -4
Hey Courtney, can I just ask....what do you do? It's just that I remember you being aroused by my word choices of "doltish" and "perfidy" or whatever...are you a journalist?
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Post by Frosti Zernow on Jan 5, 2009 23:53:35 GMT -4
Kimmi! I mean, Jaime! If only I had known earlier... My biggest regret is not figuring out that you were Kimmi and Erik was Nick! And trusting PG. That was clearly not a good move, but one that I protected myself from by keeping JR as my shield. You were the nice girl I clearly didn't talk to enough. By the time we started talking, I had already aligned with people. I was with PG (I thought) and Dave was talking my ear off. And then you were switched. I felt you already had your allies and that I'd always be second place, so I didn't try to align closely with you. I would have loved to have someone I could trust from the beginning and after the alliance in Outback, I know I could have trusted you. That's why I asked you if you were playing - you gave me that "I don't think so answer" and so I never thought to look for you. Oh well.
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Jan 5, 2009 23:54:26 GMT -4
PG: Frosti said that "Chicken and PG said we were final three and that JR and Courtney were pawns." Is this true?
No. Myself and Chicken had all intentions of going to the final 3 with you, even ask him himself. We also did tell Frosti final three since he was an original Zhan Hu member, but we began to distrust him after he attatched himself so closely to Jean-Robert and was always standing up for him. We thought you were more loyal and trustworthy.
Two adjectives to describe my gameplay:
positive- clandestine
negative- irresolute
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Post by Frosti Zernow on Jan 6, 2009 0:06:58 GMT -4
Courtney - Thanks for my favorite question. I am a playwright and also love words. I will pick devious as my positive word. There's no question I played deviously. And I am proud of that. You have to do that to get to the end. Plus, I love the word devious because of the soft dee sound followed by the vee sound and how it ends with an s, one of the sneakiest sounds in the English language. It brings to mind snakes. As a playwright, I focus on how words sound. Anyway, the second word I have chosen is slapdash. I never felt I was in control of the game even when my alliance was. We kind of flew from one TC to the next and I kept hoping that everything would go as planned. It did most of the time, but I felt there was a certain slapdashiness to it all. (And now I am making up words.) My strategy and plans worked, but I'll admit I was never confident that they would. I also love the sound of this word with slap, which has a short hard "p" sound at the end, followed by a lingering "shhhh" sound at the end. The contrast makes it one of my favorite words. That was probably longer than you wanted, but you asked me about words, one of my favorite things in the whole world. So there ya go.
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Post by Frosti Zernow on Jan 6, 2009 0:17:37 GMT -4
Hi dave. Did you replace an inactive jury member or something? Anyway, it's nice to see you.
My closest allies at the beginning of the game were Erik and PG. You betrayed our original tribe and I thought that was a terrible move because JR and Todd probably had stronger alliances with their original tribe. I told you I was going along with it because I didn't want you to target me. Plus I knew you from previous seasons and I was afraid if you found out who I was, you'd target me. So I wanted you out from early on.
PG and JR are both very worthy of Final 3 spots. There are plenty of other people who are worthy too - particularly Chicken and Erik who played very well. But really no one who made the jury played a really terrible game. The littlest things made a big difference, like Jaime's late vote.
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Post by Courtney Yates on Jan 6, 2009 0:19:15 GMT -4
Your answer was perfect, Frosti.
PG, could you explain your choice of words?
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Post by Steve "Chicken" Morris on Jan 6, 2009 0:25:19 GMT -4
Frosti> Todd's been inactive for a while so Dave replaced him And Courtney, it's true what PG says. We had to portray you as a pawn so that Jr and Frosti wouldn't feel threatened at final 5 and actually believe we would vote you out.
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Post by Jean-Robert Bellande on Jan 6, 2009 0:36:09 GMT -4
Courtney:
Fun question! My positive word would be unyielding. Once I made a decision in this game, I don't believe I ever second-guessed myself, and I tried to always put myself in the position to get further in the game, even if it meant that I had to take some risks. That includes both the decision to remain allied with Frosti until the very end and the potentially risky decision to vote out Chicken, among other examples. I tried to approach every decision with a sober understanding of the positives and negatives involved, and I believe that it was decisive action and my willingness to remain focused on the goal of making it further in the game that helped me make it through to the end.
My negative word would have to be narcissistic. I don't think it comes through very often, because I try to be careful in what I say, but I frequently think too much of myself and, in the context of Survivor, my place in the game. That manifested itself in the Tribal Council where Jaime voted late, which was the closest I came to being voted off. In that case, I feel that I let my confidence get the best of me.
Thanks, Courtney! Great question.
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Post by Frosti Zernow on Jan 6, 2009 0:47:30 GMT -4
dave, i missed your other question, so here is my answer:
Dave- You backstabbed your original tribe and that killed your chances.
Todd - He didn't have the numbers and wasn't able to worm his way into dominant alliances.
Leslie - She just didn't play to win and didn't seem to have any allies.
Erik - He was too strong and considered a threat. And for me, he allied with people I didn't trust and so I didn't stick with him.
Jaime - She really only made one mistake - the late vote!
Ashley - She was a huge threat and people saw that and had to get her out.
Chicken - No one wanted to go to the Final 3 with Chicken and that lead to his elimination. Too much of an obvious threat. I remember thinking when he would take it on himself to PM the whole alliance with our plan that that was going to come back to haunt him. He put a target on his back.
Courtney - She played a great game and the only reason she didn't make it to the end is PG won one immunity and JR won the face off challenge. Challenge weakness was her downfall.
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Jan 6, 2009 0:57:20 GMT -4
Courtney:Sorry, I forgot to explain them. My positive word was clandestine. It means kind of sly and sneaky. I think this was my best trait because I was able to play strategically without people perceiving me as someone they need to get out. My negative word was irresolute which is a synonym of hesitant. I think sometimes I was hesitant to make big moves and stick myself out there especially in the beginning of the game. However, I think this trait started disappearing more towards the end of the game. Courtney, also for your earlier question. I think you took it the wrong way. I said you were easily swung by others meaning in the final 5, when you backstabbed me. I really did trust you in this game. I would've never even thought about writing your name down. I told you I wanted to go as far with you as I could, and I did that. Please don't take it the wrong way because you did what you needed to do to make it to the end. It just kinda hurt when you turned on me in the final 5.
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Post by Leslie on Jan 6, 2009 2:19:57 GMT -4
ok my questions for all 3 congrats btw so did you cheat lie or betray an allience? did you vote me out and why? why should you win?
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Post by Jean-Robert Bellande on Jan 6, 2009 3:02:15 GMT -4
Leslie:
Like I've said a bunch of times before, I never lied to or betrayed Frosti. I did, however, lie to Chicken before he was voted off, which was the only time in the game that I outright lied to someone that I was allied with. Like I've said before, I felt that Chicken was too big of a threat if he remained in the game, and I lied to him in an attempt to see if I could prevent him from finding out about my plan to vote him off. In the end, though, I was glad to see that he was trying to do to me the exact same thing that I was doing to him. ;D
I didn't play a part in voting you (Leslie) out because I was part of the group that was immune and didn't attend that Tribal Council.
Why should I win? I've said it before and I'll say it again: strategy. I took every opportunity to get ahead in the game, and even with a target on my back I made it all the way to the end. And I did it all with a minimum of back-stabbing, with Chicken being the obvious exception. I feel that Frosti and I played very similar games, and that Peih-Gee played a great game as well, but that when it came to cruch time I was the player that had the pulse of the tribe and was able to make the big moves. In short, that's why I think I should win.
Thanks Leslie!
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