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Post by Jonathan on Jan 5, 2009 8:05:45 GMT -4
Welcome to the final tribal council! Let's bring in our jury... Todd... Leslie... Erik... Jaime... Ashley... Chicken... and Courtney, voted out at the last tribal council.
Jean-Robert, Peih-Gee, and Frosti, I first need you guys to post your opening statements in this thread. Once that has been done, the jury may start asking questions in this thread. Jurors may vote whenever they are ready to vote.
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Post by Jean-Robert Bellande on Jan 5, 2009 17:01:42 GMT -4
For me, the game of Survivor is all about strategy. I came into this game with a very clear idea of how I was going to play the game. Unfortunately, I had to throw that idea out the window really, really quick once it became clear that there would be tribal switches after every round! I'm proud of the fact that I was switched at every single opportunity before the merge, and yet I was never voted out. After the merge, I tried to play the game with a clear head and take advantage of whatever opportunities came my way. Every decision I made was based on a belief that it would get me further in the game. Although I did win an important immunity challenge and a tie-breaker, and I did lie or tell half-truths on a few occasions, ultimately it was my strategy that came first in my mind, and it's my strategic play that I am most proud of. I came here to play the game, and I feel that I did that.
Overally, this has been a fantastic experience. Thanks very much to Frosti, Peih-Gee, the jury and everyone else who took part in the game. It's been a blast.
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Jan 5, 2009 18:51:36 GMT -4
Coming into this game, I knew I had to make a strong alliance that could help me get to the end. My first alliance partner was with Chicken. We bonded on day 1 and told each other we would stick with each other to the end. Then we brought in Erik and Jaime for an alliance of four. However, our strategy was torn apart as the tribes were switched each and every round. I felt the pressure on the 2nd round, when I had to go to tribal council with Fei Long in the minority with Jaime. However, we both managed to pull through and make it farther in the game. As the game wore on, I began to see Jean-Robert as a major threat. However, no one wanted to vote him out since every one thought he had a hidden immunity idol...which turned out to be false later in the game. Unfortunately, many of the schemes myself and Chicken had planned, we never got to use. As the game continued and the numbers dwindling, I even began to see members of my alliance as a threat. Frosti had come to me, since he said he had trusted me most, telling me that Jaime, Ashley, and Erik wanted to make an alliance of four with him until the end. Basically, this is when me and Chicken knew Jaime and Erik were no longer with us. Frosti said he wanted to go to the final 5. Feeling confident I could get Courtney with us, Chicken and I jumped on board with them. I,however, did it hesitantly as I did not trust Jean-Robert, and I knew Frosti would never vote for him. But it was the best chance I had. After blindsiding Erik and getting rid of his hidden immunity idol, I began to re-think my plans. Seeing Jean-Robert and Chicken as the major threats in the game, I began to worry about my position. I thought Jean-Robert had the idol and Chicken would be seen as the strategical mastermind. This led me to turn to my alliance partner, Courtney. It was then that I tried to gather all the females in an alliance against the men. The plan failed when Jaime voted late, causing her torch to go out. I thought I was done at that point. I had turned against Frosti, Chicken, and Jean-Robert, and they all knew it. So I thought I'd be gone next for sure. However, they all saw Ashley as a bigger threat and took her out next. This led me back to my original final 3 deal with Chicken and Courtney. Although I did not want to go to the finals with Chicken for fear he would beat me, I had very little cards to play. This was when Chicken was blindsided, leaving me as an outsider in the final four. I worked for hours on the final immunity challenge and managed to pull through. I gathered Courtney immediately to vote for Jean-Robert. Then something very surprising happened. Frosti PMed me saying he would be willing to vote out Jean-Robert. I was shocked, but of course I wanted to go along with it. It turned out Frosti was lying, and it ended up in a tie. Courtney lost the tie-breaker, and now here I am sitting in the final three. Sometimes I did have to lie to some people in this game. Chicken, Erik, Jaime, and Ashley especially. However, that's part of survivor. I'm asking you not to be biased tonight. I'm asking you to not base your vote on whether or not you got your feelings hurt. Base it on who played the best game. Overall, win of lose, I had an amazing time playing this game and making it this far. I thank all of you that were a part of it with me. I am ready for your questions, and I'll try to answer them as honestly and in-depth as I possibly can.
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Post by Frosti Zernow on Jan 5, 2009 19:52:16 GMT -4
Hi everyone. This has been such a fun game. Nerve wracking at times, but still a lot of fun. I feel really good about the game I have played. I try to remain loyal to those who put their trust in me. I couldn't do that for everyone, but I was definitely loyal to the two people I am sitting next to right now. I thought Peih Gee and I had a final two alliance, but she clearly lied to me from the start since she says now she was aligned with Chicken from day one. She was a backstabber from the beginning which is why she got to where she is. Her attempted coup failed and she made it this far because Chicken continued to protect her which was his downfall and then she won immunity. Congrats to her.
JR had a tough road and I'm sure he'll agree he wouldn't be here at the end without me. We made an alliance after the merge and we stuck together the entire way. I aligned with JR because PG was gone so much due to the switches and I lost faith in her. So I made an alliance with JR as a back up plan. That served me well when it became clear during the failed women alliance that PG was not on my side at all. I had someone to fall back on - JR. So I'll say it - I might not be here at the end without him either. I truly think our alliance was the strongest one in the game and the reason we are sitting here today. If I hadn't decided to force PG and Chicken to take him on as the "fourth" member of our alliance with Courtney, he'd have been out much earlier. I protected him and he in turn helped me. We made it to the end together and that's what I am proud of.
I look forward to your questions.
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 5, 2009 19:53:22 GMT -4
The jury may now start asking questions.
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Post by Ashley on Jan 5, 2009 20:20:43 GMT -4
muah haha, u all should be scared VERY SCARED!!! jus kiddin i'll try to be nice, but no promises First of all, i want you all to kiss my ass like the way I did to u guys after eric was voted off, i truly hated all of u and i couldn't do nethin about it or else i would've been voted off next, i wish i could've told each and every single one of u off, so now u need my help/vote, so i want u all to say nice things about me, it can be how i played the game, my winning personality, nethin, make me feel special, if u can't do this even though i pretended to like u while i was in the game, plain and simple, u don't get my vote PG, i really appreactiated you tryin to help me in my time of need, it was too bad jaime self-voted and screwed things up for us, i want to know, had things worked out and jean robert was voted off, how would u have liked the rest of the game to play out? were u really gonna go along wit me, jaime and courtney to the final 4? Jean Robert, I really hate u, not personally jus because i couldn't understand y i couldn't get u out, i voted for u three times in a row, i honestly think u sprayed pixie dust on everyone so they wouldn't vote u off, i believe it was because everyone thought u had a hidden immunity idol, did u even have an idol? or was everyone jus stupid, if u didn't have an idol, how did u get everyone to think u had one? Frosti, i didn't like u at the begining of the game, then as the game went on, i started to trust u, which i guess was a mistake cus u turned out to be the biggest scummiest rat here, i should've went wit my gut and kept u at a distance, back on zhan hu, dave was the scum of our tribe, (sry dave) he betrayed us right from the get go, we all hated him for turning on us, the thing is he did it openly, u were jus more sneaky about it, which is worse, at the final 8, u had the opputunity to go to the final 4 wit me, jaime, and erik, wut was wrong wit that plan? it's not like u were gonna be out 4th, so yeh that's my question why?
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Post by Erik Huffman on Jan 5, 2009 20:26:40 GMT -4
Rofl Ashley. <33
Alright. Congrats Frosti, Jean-Robert, and Peih-Gee on making it to the Final 3. I think you all played a great game, and my decision is going to be very hard to make.
Frosti, I want to know why you sold Ashley, Myself, and Jaime to Chicken and Peih-Gee, when you knew you'd at least make Final 4 with us? Because you could have only made Final 5 when it came down to that point. Why give up a Final 4 position for a risky Final 5 position? I'm just curious, because you took that chance and still made Final 3. Congrats dude...on being the #1 backstabber. ;]
Jean-Robert, I wanna know all your alliances? Who were you aligned with in the beginning of the game? Did you ever know I was the one who found the idol? Congrats dude on making Final 3, you were almost gone back when Denise left but we feared you had the HII. Congrats ;]
Peih-Gee, We were allies in beginning, but I just started to feel more distant from you and Chicken as the merge came. Plus that incident where Dave claimed you were a cheater got me thinking too. Im not sure whether you did or not, but I did believe you did after that. Im sorry, but I dont think you cheated anymore. Haha. I understand why you took me out, cause we planned on the same thing the next round. Ha. I wanna know how you knew I had the HII?
Also, my last question to you all is:
Did I play in a past season? If I did what season? If yes then who did I play as?
Again Congrats you 3! <3 =]
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Jan 5, 2009 20:58:50 GMT -4
PG, i really appreactiated you tryin to help me in my time of need, it was too bad jaime self-voted and screwed things up for us, i want to know, had things worked out and jean robert was voted off, how would u have liked the rest of the game to play out? were u really gonna go along wit me, jaime and courtney to the final 4?
Honestly, Ashley, yes. I would've went along with the final 4 plan. I felt very vulnerable going against all of the guys, and I thought it would be a cool move to make later on in the game. Voting out Chicken would've been hard for me, but I definitely saw the three guys as the biggest threats at final tribal council. I wasn't sure if I would be able to beat you or Jaime since you were both well-liked and fierce competitors, but I was willing to take the chance and fight it out between the four of us when the time came to it. I thought it would've been fun.
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Post by Peih-Gee Law on Jan 5, 2009 21:03:09 GMT -4
Peih-Gee, We were allies in beginning, but I just started to feel more distant from you and Chicken as the merge came. Plus that incident where Dave claimed you were a cheater got me thinking too. Im not sure whether you did or not, but I did believe you did after that. Im sorry, but I dont think you cheated anymore. Haha. I understand why you took me out, cause we planned on the same thing the next round. Ha. I wanna know how you knew I had the HII? I thought the cheating thing would come up. Once again, I'd just like to say I didn't cheat, and I don't understand why our different IP addresses were never brought up my Jonathan, but there is nothing more I can say to make any one believe me. I already stated my case. Anyway, I felt the distance to at the merge, so I can't blame you on turning. You were just a big threat, and you weren't alligned with us anymore, which is why we had to blindside you. And to answer your question about the idol, to be honest, we had NO CLUE you had it when we voted you out! Lol! That was kind of a lucky break for us. I didn't find out until afterwards when I alligned with the women. Jaime told me you had it. We took you out for the sole reason of turning on us and being a huge threat. It didn't really have anything to do with your hidden immunity idol. I hope that answers your question.
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Post by Erik Huffman on Jan 5, 2009 21:06:00 GMT -4
Oh it does. ;]
<33
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Post by Jean-Robert Bellande on Jan 5, 2009 21:26:00 GMT -4
Ashley:
To answer your first question, I think that you were a very under-rated player. I wrote exactly that in our Rites of Passage ceremony, which you'll be able to read eventually. Initially I wasn't sure if you were a threat or not, but I think you made the right choice every time you were faced with a major strategic decision, and you basically got unlucky with the Jaime self-vote situation. If that had gone your way, you could easily have been sitting in the final three.
Regarding the Idol... I never did have one. I'm not sure where the suspicion that I did have one came from, but I didn't learn of people's suspicions until well after the merge, when I heard it from both Chicken and Courtney. I decided to not respond to the suspicion in any way and let people think whatever they wanted to think, obviously hoping that they'd keep thinking that I had an idol and would be afraid of trying to vote for me. It worked out in the end, because even as late as the Final Five Courtney was concerned that I had an idol, which is one of the reasons why we were able to vote out Chicken (as was discussed at great length after that TC).
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Post by Jean-Robert Bellande on Jan 5, 2009 21:40:03 GMT -4
Erik:
My alliances. Well, before the merge the situation was really fluid. Like I said before, I was switched after every TC, so my allies were mostly short-term and were spread out over both tribes at any given time, which caused me a lot of frustration! Initially, a group consisting of myself, Courtney, Todd and Denise were loosely aligned, mostly just because there were so many inactives on the original Fei Long that it was in our best interests to work together. In particular I trusted Todd and Denise, when we were on tribes together early on (I didn't really meet up with Courtney again until after the merge). I felt really bad when Denise was voted out. Then there's the issue of Dave. When I first came to Zhan Hu, I was obviously out-numbered, but Dave came to me right away and wanted to work with me. I had a lot of contact with Dave. I never truly trusted him, because I was very much aware that he was trying to make alliances with absolutely everybody, but at that point I was just trying to do whatever I could to stay alive.
Later on, I was obviously allied with Frosti, as well as others along the way. Frosti was the only person in the game that I was completely honest with and true to at all times.
I had no idea that you (Erik) had the hidden Immunity Idol until we saw it in your Final Words at the Rites of Passage ceremony. And as for previous seasons, I didn't play in either Thailand or Australia, so I'd just be guessing.
I hope that answers your questions! ;D
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Post by Steve "Chicken" Morris on Jan 5, 2009 21:40:46 GMT -4
*Chicken walks up to the fire pit and faces Jean Robert, Frosti and Peih Gee. He has a bit of a melancholic expression on his face*
Hi guys. Congratulations for making it to the final 3. You were all probably the 3 best players of the game. I am so happy that there are no coat tailers or weaker people in the final 3. And no I'm not directing that at anyone.
First of all, before I ask my question, I'd just like to say something to PG.
Girl, I had your back. I honestly thought we were best friends and closest allies. When I made that promise to you on day 1, I meant it. I never double crossed you. I was soo willing to go to the final 3 with you. I wouldn't have cared if you won. I just wanted to go as far with someone who I really cared about and who I would've been happy to see win.
You said that to me too...but then, your opening statement shocked the living daylights out of me. I can't believe that of all people, you backstabbed me too. I just can't believe it. I thought our friendship meant more than that. I'd just like you to know how hurt I am, and how our friendship will never be the same again.
*Wipes tear off cheek. Tells the violin players to stop playing*
Now, just because I say that, it doesn't mean I'm not voting for you. I do respect anyone who is treacherous because after all you need to be to get further in the game. I just thought that our friendship was stronger than that, but it wasn't.
Anyway, that's my final comment. I'm at peace with saying that.
When I came in here tonight, I have to be honest, my vote was 100% for PG. Basically I thought, okay you're all fantastic players, what else can I go with? Oh yeah! Friendship!! Well now that's out the window, so my new criteria for my vote is who answers my question the best.
I have one simple question, and your answers will determine my vote. Seriously, you're all good, I have nothing else to go buy:
Why do the 2 people sitting next to you not deserve my vote?
Now, cogitate before you answer. I don't want to hear things like 'Frosti's such a tool he backstabbed everybody.' No. As I said before I respect people who outwit, outplay, outlast. You all know me. Give me answers that I will be inclined to. I know it's a tough question, even right now I can't think of why Frosti would have anything bad to say about JR etc, but good luck with it. Think. This seriously tests your thinking skills.
Best answer, gets my vote.
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Post by Jean-Robert Bellande on Jan 5, 2009 22:00:54 GMT -4
Chicken:
Why do the two people sitting next to me not deserve my vote? For me, the question comes down to strategy. I have absolutely nothing bad to say about either person personally.
Peih-Gee: Strategically speaking, for as well as she did for most of the game, she ended on a down note. At both the Final Five and Final Four, she was left out of the loop in terms of what was actually going on. After the Tribal Council when you (Chicken) were voted out, Peih-Gee admitted that she had no idea what was really going on behind the scenes before that vote (the drama with Courtney, our dueling back-stabbing plots, etc.). I don't think that speaks well of Peih-Gee's game-play at that point. Then, at the final four, she seemed convinced that Frosti would vote against me, and she told me as much. Frosti obviously didn't vote against me, and so once again Peih-Gee reacted with surprise. Like I said, I think she played a great game up until the Final Five, but I don't think she finished strongly, immunity aside.
Frosti: It's really tough to find something bad to say about Frosti, because obviously were were closely aligned and mostly made decisions as a team. The only situation I can point to is, once again, the Final Five vote when we voted you (Chicken) out. I look on that vote as being a pivotal vote in the game, because you were potentially a huge threat in the final Immunity Challenge and well-liked by the jury. The plan to vote you out was entirely my idea. I went to Frosti with it, and he said that if I could get Courtney on board he would go along with it. I then contacted Courtney, and the rest is history. Like I said, I do think that Frosti and I played games that were very similar to one another, but I feel that I was the more active and strategic-minded player at that crucial point late in the game. I hope that answers your questions. Thanks.
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Post by Ashley on Jan 5, 2009 22:02:10 GMT -4
PG, u didn't respond to my first statement, failure to do so and u will not get my vote, i'm still waitin
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